1 00:00:04,300 --> 00:00:03,040 good morning and welcome to the 2 00:00:05,860 --> 00:00:04,310 International Space Station flight 3 00:00:07,929 --> 00:00:05,870 control room here in the Mission Control 4 00:00:10,089 --> 00:00:07,939 Center we have with us here Kenny Todd 5 00:00:11,799 --> 00:00:10,099 who is the ops integration manager for 6 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:11,809 the space station program and he's going 7 00:00:16,570 --> 00:00:14,210 to give us an update on the incident 8 00:00:17,769 --> 00:00:16,580 with the cooling loop on board the space 9 00:00:19,749 --> 00:00:17,779 station yesterday tell us a little bit 10 00:00:21,339 --> 00:00:19,759 about what happened and what team here 11 00:00:25,630 --> 00:00:21,349 on the ground has been doing to get it 12 00:00:28,389 --> 00:00:25,640 fixed let's see good morning yesterday 13 00:00:30,850 --> 00:00:28,399 well those most people know we have we 14 00:00:34,420 --> 00:00:30,860 have two external thermal control loops 15 00:00:36,220 --> 00:00:34,430 on a space station they the loads that 16 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:36,230 are on Space Station the electrical 17 00:00:43,090 --> 00:00:40,130 loads the heat loads all the energy and 18 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:43,100 the heat that gets developed as those 19 00:00:48,490 --> 00:00:46,370 oru s operate gets dissipated through 20 00:00:51,550 --> 00:00:48,500 through these external thermal control 21 00:00:54,690 --> 00:00:51,560 loops and we had yesterday a situation 22 00:00:58,900 --> 00:00:54,700 where one of those loops powered down 23 00:01:03,240 --> 00:00:58,910 the the reason behind that is all still 24 00:01:05,620 --> 00:01:03,250 in work at this point the the system 25 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:05,630 it's it's up and running but there's a 26 00:01:10,450 --> 00:01:07,490 key component of the system called the 27 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:10,460 flow control valve that does not at this 28 00:01:15,670 --> 00:01:13,490 time appear to be working properly that 29 00:01:17,649 --> 00:01:15,680 particular valve the the role of it is 30 00:01:20,649 --> 00:01:17,659 to is to help regulate the temperature 31 00:01:23,530 --> 00:01:20,659 of the ammonia in that loop it's very 32 00:01:25,750 --> 00:01:23,540 critical that that we maintain the 33 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:25,760 temperature in that loop so that so that 34 00:01:32,649 --> 00:01:29,090 when that ammonia is reintroduced into 35 00:01:35,830 --> 00:01:32,659 the to the heat exchanger that's that's 36 00:01:37,300 --> 00:01:35,840 on the note to that that the the water 37 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:37,310 that's also flowing through that heat 38 00:01:41,500 --> 00:01:39,650 exchanger does not freeze and so so 39 00:01:45,130 --> 00:01:41,510 anyway that's a very delicate balance 40 00:01:47,109 --> 00:01:45,140 that we have to to operate in and so we 41 00:01:49,090 --> 00:01:47,119 have systems and checks and balances in 42 00:01:52,450 --> 00:01:49,100 place so that if the temperature in that 43 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:52,460 loop gets too cold that the loop itself 44 00:01:56,500 --> 00:01:53,930 will shut down and that's what happened 45 00:01:59,940 --> 00:01:56,510 yesterday and so once the loop was 46 00:02:02,320 --> 00:01:59,950 repowered this this flow control valve 47 00:02:04,030 --> 00:02:02,330 that helps to regulate that temperature 48 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:04,040 it became apparent as the team was 49 00:02:08,679 --> 00:02:06,770 recovering the loop that that it wasn't 50 00:02:10,300 --> 00:02:08,689 quite functioning the way we thought and 51 00:02:12,640 --> 00:02:10,310 we weren't getting the same level of 52 00:02:13,380 --> 00:02:12,650 tempt temperature response that that we 53 00:02:18,130 --> 00:02:13,390 were expecting 54 00:02:21,430 --> 00:02:18,140 so for that reason we chose to leave the 55 00:02:24,310 --> 00:02:21,440 lead the system not integrated and and 56 00:02:26,410 --> 00:02:24,320 by doing so that forced us to to have to 57 00:02:29,380 --> 00:02:26,420 take some of the loads off of the node 58 00:02:32,620 --> 00:02:29,390 to some of the heat loads which caused 59 00:02:34,750 --> 00:02:32,630 us to power down some boxes some oru 60 00:02:37,950 --> 00:02:34,760 some systems that that are considered 61 00:02:41,170 --> 00:02:37,960 non critical of our use that sense for 62 00:02:43,540 --> 00:02:41,180 replacement unit correct and so so we 63 00:02:46,540 --> 00:02:43,550 took those boxes now again we haven't 64 00:02:49,390 --> 00:02:46,550 lost any any primary functionality there 65 00:02:52,180 --> 00:02:49,400 is some redundancy that we're down right 66 00:02:54,250 --> 00:02:52,190 now but again that's not something that 67 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:54,260 that I would call critical to to 68 00:02:57,580 --> 00:02:56,090 day-to-day station station operations 69 00:02:59,950 --> 00:02:57,590 should we have a failure in one of those 70 00:03:02,230 --> 00:02:59,960 areas obviously we would want the we 71 00:03:04,180 --> 00:03:02,240 would want the redundant unit up so so 72 00:03:07,030 --> 00:03:04,190 this is a position we don't want to want 73 00:03:09,550 --> 00:03:07,040 to be in long term and so the team is 74 00:03:10,930 --> 00:03:09,560 continuing to work through the fall tree 75 00:03:14,260 --> 00:03:10,940 of what might be going on with this 76 00:03:18,090 --> 00:03:14,270 particular flow control valve and and 77 00:03:20,890 --> 00:03:18,100 that work is ongoing as we speak and so 78 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:20,900 you know in the in the meanwhile we've 79 00:03:24,370 --> 00:03:22,370 got a good stable configuration to 80 00:03:26,140 --> 00:03:24,380 cruise in good shape no no issues there 81 00:03:29,920 --> 00:03:26,150 they're continuing to go about their day 82 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:29,930 to day activities you know where we can 83 00:03:34,030 --> 00:03:32,690 we're giving them good science and all 84 00:03:35,710 --> 00:03:34,040 the science that we've collected up to 85 00:03:39,490 --> 00:03:35,720 this point is not at risk so we're in 86 00:03:43,060 --> 00:03:39,500 good shape there as far as our forward 87 00:03:46,060 --> 00:03:43,070 plan you know they we do have an orbital 88 00:03:48,130 --> 00:03:46,070 launch that's coming up in this morning 89 00:03:49,540 --> 00:03:48,140 at the at the mission management team 90 00:03:51,790 --> 00:03:49,550 meeting we were doing our readiness for 91 00:03:54,090 --> 00:03:51,800 that particular launch which was to 92 00:03:57,699 --> 00:03:54,100 occur next week on the eighteenth and 93 00:04:00,330 --> 00:03:57,709 and at this point i deferred the 94 00:04:02,650 --> 00:04:00,340 go/no-go for that particular launch 95 00:04:05,229 --> 00:04:02,660 until that will get a little more 96 00:04:07,270 --> 00:04:05,239 information on this particular issue as 97 00:04:09,729 --> 00:04:07,280 i said earlier there's some some issues 98 00:04:11,770 --> 00:04:09,739 with redundancy right now that when you 99 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:11,780 get into a situation where you need to 100 00:04:15,910 --> 00:04:14,090 bring up another visiting vehicle you 101 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:15,920 want to make sure that that you're in 102 00:04:19,420 --> 00:04:17,570 the best possible position you can be in 103 00:04:22,290 --> 00:04:19,430 and so for that reason we have what we 104 00:04:24,820 --> 00:04:22,300 call launch commit criteria and that 105 00:04:26,230 --> 00:04:24,830 criteria is in place to ensure that that 106 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:26,240 the systems are derived 107 00:04:31,900 --> 00:04:28,250 level of redundancy and operating 108 00:04:34,900 --> 00:04:31,910 properly and at this point based on that 109 00:04:37,990 --> 00:04:34,910 criteria there are a few of those commit 110 00:04:39,550 --> 00:04:38,000 criteria that we cannot meet and so we 111 00:04:42,610 --> 00:04:39,560 understand which ones those are and 112 00:04:46,450 --> 00:04:42,620 we're looking at options for things we 113 00:04:48,100 --> 00:04:46,460 might do to recover that redundancy but 114 00:04:50,830 --> 00:04:48,110 obviously our primary focus at this 115 00:04:52,330 --> 00:04:50,840 point is trying to recover this loop and 116 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:52,340 when we recover this loop we can power 117 00:04:57,159 --> 00:04:54,770 those those orbital replacement units on 118 00:04:59,589 --> 00:04:57,169 and and get back into a better better 119 00:05:01,330 --> 00:04:59,599 configuration to support that launch so 120 00:05:03,790 --> 00:05:01,340 I'm sorry you said the go/no-go has been 121 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:03,800 deferred so at this point the launch has 122 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:05,930 not been given the go-ahead to to launch 123 00:05:11,350 --> 00:05:08,090 but it also hasn't been postponed yet is 124 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:11,360 that correct the you know as whenever we 125 00:05:18,969 --> 00:05:15,770 we build a launch time frame we use the 126 00:05:20,710 --> 00:05:18,979 build it in windows and so or this 127 00:05:23,350 --> 00:05:20,720 orbital launch is like all others we 128 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:23,360 have a series of dates that we can go on 129 00:05:28,809 --> 00:05:25,370 and right now we could go all the way up 130 00:05:30,939 --> 00:05:28,819 until the 21st first possibly the 22nd 131 00:05:33,370 --> 00:05:30,949 but but for sure we can go up to the 132 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:33,380 21st and so we've got three or four days 133 00:05:39,700 --> 00:05:36,050 in a launch window that we can we can 134 00:05:41,469 --> 00:05:39,710 decide to you know day by day if things 135 00:05:43,209 --> 00:05:41,479 look like we're starting to mature an 136 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:43,219 option to recover this particular loop 137 00:05:48,610 --> 00:05:46,250 we can we can slide a day here and there 138 00:05:49,899 --> 00:05:48,620 to to try to let those those ideas and 139 00:05:53,350 --> 00:05:49,909 those thoughts and those procedures 140 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:53,360 mature they get us there so so at this 141 00:06:00,610 --> 00:05:57,130 point there isn't any any harm and 142 00:06:03,070 --> 00:06:00,620 pushing that go no-go this is clearly an 143 00:06:05,350 --> 00:06:03,080 issue that we need to try to deal with 144 00:06:08,230 --> 00:06:05,360 in its entirety before we commit to the 145 00:06:09,339 --> 00:06:08,240 launch orbital one so we're we're 146 00:06:12,159 --> 00:06:09,349 committed to doing that and I think 147 00:06:14,830 --> 00:06:12,169 given the team an extra day or soda to 148 00:06:16,719 --> 00:06:14,840 think through what ways we might might 149 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:16,729 recover enough of the functionality to 150 00:06:20,709 --> 00:06:18,370 get comfortable with the launches is 151 00:06:22,749 --> 00:06:20,719 it's going to be our best course action 152 00:06:25,059 --> 00:06:22,759 over the next day and so that's what 153 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:25,069 we'll do I will get the mission 154 00:06:29,620 --> 00:06:26,930 management team back together on monday 155 00:06:31,649 --> 00:06:29,630 and and we'll see where we're at at that 156 00:06:35,829 --> 00:06:31,659 time and whether or not there's enough 157 00:06:39,159 --> 00:06:35,839 data and enough reasoning behind an 158 00:06:42,189 --> 00:06:39,169 attempt to go to go fly the orb one long 159 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:42,199 and if between now and then it doesn't 160 00:06:48,249 --> 00:06:45,650 look like we're we're going to get to a 161 00:06:50,589 --> 00:06:48,259 good option or nothing's coming apparent 162 00:06:51,999 --> 00:06:50,599 to us then we can start start moving 163 00:06:55,779 --> 00:06:52,009 moving in that launch window to the 164 00:07:00,010 --> 00:06:55,789 right a little bit and and deciding to 165 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:00,020 give the team yet some more time if in 166 00:07:02,830 --> 00:07:01,610 the in the near-term discussions it 167 00:07:07,269 --> 00:07:02,840 doesn't look like there's anything 168 00:07:09,489 --> 00:07:07,279 that's that's on the horizon then then 169 00:07:11,739 --> 00:07:09,499 we'll look at other options that might 170 00:07:13,540 --> 00:07:11,749 have to be considered including the 171 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:13,550 removal and replacement of that 172 00:07:21,309 --> 00:07:16,490 particular valve which which is housed 173 00:07:23,860 --> 00:07:21,319 inside pump pump module external to to 174 00:07:26,350 --> 00:07:23,870 the station and so that will lead us to 175 00:07:30,730 --> 00:07:26,360 a series of discussions regarding 176 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:30,740 spacewalks and and we'll have to go to 177 00:07:36,700 --> 00:07:33,370 go down that path but at this point 178 00:07:38,709 --> 00:07:36,710 we're for lack of a better term we're 179 00:07:40,629 --> 00:07:38,719 going to kick the can a little bit and 180 00:07:42,429 --> 00:07:40,639 going to let the team work a little bit 181 00:07:44,619 --> 00:07:42,439 more okay and I assume there's nothing 182 00:07:47,050 --> 00:07:44,629 that the crew is critically waiting on 183 00:07:49,059 --> 00:07:47,060 from Cygnus obviously we want to get it 184 00:07:52,119 --> 00:07:49,069 launched as soon as we can but nothing 185 00:07:55,269 --> 00:07:52,129 that they need right away no there's 186 00:07:57,550 --> 00:07:55,279 there's nothing there that that you know 187 00:07:59,679 --> 00:07:57,560 is somehow or another critical to two 188 00:08:02,320 --> 00:07:59,689 operations moving forward we've got 189 00:08:05,559 --> 00:08:02,330 we've got you know our standard set of 190 00:08:07,300 --> 00:08:05,569 hardware on there we've got some piece 191 00:08:09,219 --> 00:08:07,310 of equipment for the for the EBA suits 192 00:08:12,659 --> 00:08:09,229 that when it gets up there we will we 193 00:08:14,709 --> 00:08:12,669 will change that out but again that 194 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:14,719 there's not anything in there that I 195 00:08:19,119 --> 00:08:17,210 would say is hugely critical to to us 196 00:08:21,249 --> 00:08:19,129 doing our normal operations okay so you 197 00:08:22,749 --> 00:08:21,259 have the time you need i guess to work 198 00:08:24,550 --> 00:08:22,759 through all the different options and 199 00:08:26,139 --> 00:08:24,560 decide what you need to do not only with 200 00:08:29,529 --> 00:08:26,149 the launch for next week but also for 201 00:08:31,570 --> 00:08:29,539 the fix of the system itself at this 202 00:08:34,589 --> 00:08:31,580 point again i think we're in the early 203 00:08:37,509 --> 00:08:34,599 stages are trying to understand it i 204 00:08:39,519 --> 00:08:37,519 think everything that we can do is being 205 00:08:41,649 --> 00:08:39,529 done the system is good and stable the 206 00:08:42,850 --> 00:08:41,659 crews in good shape all the right folks 207 00:08:45,329 --> 00:08:42,860 on the ground are looking at the problem 208 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:45,339 and trying to trying to assess exactly 209 00:08:49,809 --> 00:08:48,290 what the what the root cause is and what 210 00:08:51,699 --> 00:08:49,819 our options are to try to continue 211 00:08:54,460 --> 00:08:51,709 moving forward with the flight program 212 00:08:56,500 --> 00:08:54,470 and while we'd like to fly the orbital 213 00:08:58,540 --> 00:08:56,510 d1 mission in this window you know we're 214 00:09:00,220 --> 00:08:58,550 going to do what's right for for the 215 00:09:02,439 --> 00:09:00,230 program and the crew and we'll do it 216 00:09:04,150 --> 00:09:02,449 safely and if that means that that we 217 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:04,160 can't do the orb d1 mission while we go 218 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:05,810 sort this out then that's that's the 219 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:06,890 right thing to do and we'll go do it 220 00:09:12,370 --> 00:09:09,890 okay well i know this same system i 221 00:09:14,530 --> 00:09:12,380 guess we had a similar issue with back 222 00:09:16,569 --> 00:09:14,540 in 2010 i think can you talk a little 223 00:09:20,139 --> 00:09:16,579 bit about that how this is the same or 224 00:09:21,490 --> 00:09:20,149 different as what we saw then well when 225 00:09:22,750 --> 00:09:21,500 we talk about it in terms of the pump 226 00:09:24,819 --> 00:09:22,760 module it's going to sound the same to 227 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:24,829 everybody the difference here is that 228 00:09:28,509 --> 00:09:26,930 that that in that particular instance we 229 00:09:30,069 --> 00:09:28,519 had a pump that just shut down if you 230 00:09:31,300 --> 00:09:30,079 look inside the pump module itself there 231 00:09:33,819 --> 00:09:31,310 are several different components in 232 00:09:35,259 --> 00:09:33,829 there in this instance the problem we're 233 00:09:36,910 --> 00:09:35,269 having is with the flow control valve 234 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:36,920 which is while it's inside the same 235 00:09:40,750 --> 00:09:38,689 housing it's a separate piece of 236 00:09:45,340 --> 00:09:40,760 hardware has a different controller on 237 00:09:49,870 --> 00:09:45,350 it and so I would say this is a that was 238 00:09:51,670 --> 00:09:49,880 a failure to two back in 2010 the pump 239 00:09:53,949 --> 00:09:51,680 failed so that was a failure to be able 240 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:53,959 to move the ammonia what we're having 241 00:09:57,220 --> 00:09:55,730 here is a failure to be able to control 242 00:10:00,130 --> 00:09:57,230 the temperature of the ammonia this 243 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:00,140 bound helps us to to regulate by by 244 00:10:03,009 --> 00:10:01,490 saying how much monia we're going to 245 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:03,019 pull from the radiator versus how much 246 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:04,930 we're pulling from from the normal 247 00:10:09,429 --> 00:10:07,370 bypass live which is a smaller loop that 248 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:09,439 runs just through the pump and some cold 249 00:10:14,050 --> 00:10:12,050 plates and and back around again so it's 250 00:10:16,780 --> 00:10:14,060 one that operates at a little higher 251 00:10:19,929 --> 00:10:16,790 temperature and and so this valve is 252 00:10:21,519 --> 00:10:19,939 basically a mixing valve if you will it 253 00:10:22,689 --> 00:10:21,529 helps us regulate the temperature you 254 00:10:24,309 --> 00:10:22,699 can modulate it it modulates 255 00:10:26,319 --> 00:10:24,319 automatically based on what the 256 00:10:27,910 --> 00:10:26,329 temperature happens to be at that 257 00:10:30,670 --> 00:10:27,920 particular time and what we're trying to 258 00:10:32,350 --> 00:10:30,680 control it to and so that it while it's 259 00:10:36,340 --> 00:10:32,360 in the same pump module it's a different 260 00:10:38,050 --> 00:10:36,350 area of module ok and y know in 2010 we 261 00:10:40,329 --> 00:10:38,060 ended up doing a spacewalk to go out and 262 00:10:42,189 --> 00:10:40,339 and fix it is you mentioned that that's 263 00:10:44,139 --> 00:10:42,199 you know a possibility we don't know yet 264 00:10:47,500 --> 00:10:44,149 that we'll get to that possibility that 265 00:10:50,319 --> 00:10:47,510 that point but if we do need to go do a 266 00:10:51,819 --> 00:10:50,329 spacewalk we have the parts on the 267 00:10:54,579 --> 00:10:51,829 station that we could use to replace it 268 00:10:57,819 --> 00:10:54,589 we do we have spare pump modules on 269 00:10:59,300 --> 00:10:57,829 orbit I think there's no no issue with 270 00:11:01,940 --> 00:10:59,310 being able to 271 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:01,950 to have the hardware to go do it and in 272 00:11:06,680 --> 00:11:04,170 fact again this will look a lot like 273 00:11:09,530 --> 00:11:06,690 what we did in 2010 it's going out into 274 00:11:13,190 --> 00:11:09,540 that same location and so a lot of the 275 00:11:15,590 --> 00:11:13,200 choreography will look the same back 276 00:11:18,650 --> 00:11:15,600 when we did the the the pump module 277 00:11:21,740 --> 00:11:18,660 change out back then we didn't have the 278 00:11:23,690 --> 00:11:21,750 benefit of the knowledge that we've 279 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:23,700 captured as a result of the last DBA 280 00:11:27,590 --> 00:11:25,650 where we had a problem with the the crew 281 00:11:29,750 --> 00:11:27,600 member and water in this suit so we're 282 00:11:32,210 --> 00:11:29,760 lot smarter now and so there are going 283 00:11:33,769 --> 00:11:32,220 to be some things that will have to do a 284 00:11:36,410 --> 00:11:33,779 little bit differently and preparing for 285 00:11:39,620 --> 00:11:36,420 an EV a going forward just ensuring that 286 00:11:41,510 --> 00:11:39,630 the suits in in a good shape that we put 287 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:41,520 every mitigation possible in place and 288 00:11:47,780 --> 00:11:44,010 there are a few since since that time 289 00:11:51,470 --> 00:11:47,790 frame to ensure that that we've we've 290 00:11:53,180 --> 00:11:51,480 got the crew member protected and so so 291 00:11:54,890 --> 00:11:53,190 so yes I think we're in good shape 292 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:54,900 moving forward if we have to go do an e 293 00:11:58,220 --> 00:11:56,850 VA it's just a matter at this time we 294 00:12:01,370 --> 00:11:58,230 have to go crank through the plan and 295 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:01,380 then let folks go go go put the plan on 296 00:12:05,540 --> 00:12:03,330 paper and go get ready to execute if we 297 00:12:06,650 --> 00:12:05,550 have to go that bad I know you're 298 00:12:08,329 --> 00:12:06,660 basically just going to take whatever 299 00:12:10,970 --> 00:12:08,339 time you need but do you have any any 300 00:12:12,980 --> 00:12:10,980 idea what to expect on terms of in terms 301 00:12:17,390 --> 00:12:12,990 of a time frame when we might know what 302 00:12:19,970 --> 00:12:17,400 exactly the issue is in terms of exactly 303 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:19,980 what the problem is you know this is 304 00:12:23,900 --> 00:12:22,530 this is a tough one because this is not 305 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:23,910 hard where you can get to its external 306 00:12:27,410 --> 00:12:25,890 to the station so we can't go open it up 307 00:12:29,329 --> 00:12:27,420 look at the valve and say you know well 308 00:12:31,460 --> 00:12:29,339 it's a seal that's shifted or it's a 309 00:12:33,410 --> 00:12:31,470 sensor that's that's come off or 310 00:12:35,930 --> 00:12:33,420 something that's not going to be obvious 311 00:12:37,850 --> 00:12:35,940 to us and so the team is trying to 312 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:37,860 manipulate this valve and trying to draw 313 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:39,930 some conclusions just based on secondary 314 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:41,490 cues what the temperature is doing what 315 00:12:45,860 --> 00:12:43,170 the flow rates doing as they move this 316 00:12:47,750 --> 00:12:45,870 valve and and so without putting ice on 317 00:12:51,260 --> 00:12:47,760 valve it's it's going to be very tough 318 00:12:53,180 --> 00:12:51,270 to to get specifically right at it but 319 00:12:55,430 --> 00:12:53,190 you know this is this one of those 320 00:12:57,199 --> 00:12:55,440 things whenever we we do if we have to 321 00:12:59,780 --> 00:12:57,209 replace it it'll be on a much grander 322 00:13:01,100 --> 00:12:59,790 scale because we'll replace the pump and 323 00:13:02,810 --> 00:13:01,110 everything else that's in there that 324 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:02,820 goes along with what the flow control 325 00:13:08,030 --> 00:13:05,370 valve okay and you've got time to think 326 00:13:10,970 --> 00:13:08,040 about that there's no looming deadline 327 00:13:12,590 --> 00:13:10,980 that you need to make a decision by or 328 00:13:16,670 --> 00:13:12,600 you need to get the 329 00:13:19,689 --> 00:13:16,680 loot back up and running for you know in 330 00:13:25,579 --> 00:13:19,699 general we have two two loops on station 331 00:13:27,139 --> 00:13:25,589 are our best position to be in us to 332 00:13:29,870 --> 00:13:27,149 have both those loops up and running and 333 00:13:31,579 --> 00:13:29,880 available to us and then if while we're 334 00:13:35,389 --> 00:13:31,589 sitting at one loop and I think we're 335 00:13:37,430 --> 00:13:35,399 somewhat vulnerable and so clearly from 336 00:13:39,379 --> 00:13:37,440 a program perspective our our intention 337 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:39,389 would be to try to to move sooner rather 338 00:13:43,639 --> 00:13:41,250 than later to recover that functionality 339 00:13:45,379 --> 00:13:43,649 unless we have a very good plan and a 340 00:13:47,990 --> 00:13:45,389 very good understanding of how to 341 00:13:49,699 --> 00:13:48,000 provide that function you know should we 342 00:13:51,740 --> 00:13:49,709 have an additional failure and at this 343 00:13:54,199 --> 00:13:51,750 point I don't know that we have that 344 00:13:56,569 --> 00:13:54,209 plan so so our intention would be to try 345 00:13:59,240 --> 00:13:56,579 to get get recovered as as quick as 346 00:14:01,370 --> 00:13:59,250 reasonably possible you know taken into 347 00:14:03,259 --> 00:14:01,380 account you know the the time necessary 348 00:14:05,389 --> 00:14:03,269 to get ready to go do an EBA if that's 349 00:14:07,220 --> 00:14:05,399 the path we have to take or if we have 350 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:07,230 some other options that allow us to stay 351 00:14:11,210 --> 00:14:08,970 with the configuration we have but we 352 00:14:12,710 --> 00:14:11,220 just have to operate a little smarter or 353 00:14:14,329 --> 00:14:12,720 do it a little differently that you know 354 00:14:18,740 --> 00:14:14,339 allow enough time to let those ideas 355 00:14:19,910 --> 00:14:18,750 maturing and get get pot it okay well 356 00:14:21,710 --> 00:14:19,920 thanks so much i think i think that 357 00:14:23,420 --> 00:14:21,720 covers the situation as it is at this 358 00:14:28,249 --> 00:14:23,430 point and we appreciate your time and 359 00:14:30,620 --> 00:14:28,259 well you can stay tuned to ww NSA gov / 360 00:14:32,179 --> 00:14:30,630 station for continuing updates on 361 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:32,189 exactly what's going on onboard the 362 00:14:36,350 --> 00:14:33,930 space station with the crew of the 363 00:14:37,819 --> 00:14:36,360 expedition 38 we'll stop there for now 364 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:37,829 thanks again this was Kenny Todd the 365 00:14:41,569 --> 00:14:39,810 integration ops integration manager for